Re: What's the offical names to the Nazis Blimp and planes in LC?

Posted by Michaelson from em12-686.utsi.edu on March 02, 1999 at 15:15:38:

In Reply to: Re: What's the offical names to the Nazis Blimp and planes in LC? posted by Anjeo Joe on March 01, 1999 at 20:46:10:

: : : Hey all,
: : : I was just wondering what are these things called? It's been bugging me for quite some time. Thanks in advance!!

: : : Meg

: : Are you referring to the type airship? If so, it's a zepplein, or ridge framed airship, named after the inventor. There were several built, including the Graf Zepplein as well as the Hindenberg. As to the bi-plane trainer on the trapeze hanger, that I'd have to do some more digging. It was a real item used by not only the Germans, but the U.S. Navy in the 1930's, and the rig was also used to capture planes in flight, though not exactly the safest procedure to practice. The Navy used it as a recon plane for use with an airship when doing official exploration work. The theory was to use the airship as a movable platform, and the planes could then fly to and from the airship without landing. The plan was to use this idea on South Pole explorations, and a movie was made back in 1930 showing this usage. Personally I'm not sure whether it was actually used or not, as Adm. Byrd was a big believer in ridge wing aircraft and wasn't THAT fond of all that hydrogen hanging over his head. Hope this helps you some. Regards. Michaelson

: Did you ever wonder why the zepplein, a commercial aircraft, would be carrying an armed biplane on an international flight? Where were they going? To Istanbul? When they crashed, the old man with the car seemed to be Turkish, or at least from that general area. And Indy and his father were by a body of water, probably the Aegean, or the Black Sea, but maybe the Adriatic. And they were attached by Bf 109's over non-German airspace. The Bf 109 had a very limited range of between 286 and 413 miles. Where were they based? I always wondered.

I kind of gave up that sor of wondering way back when I saw Raiders, because the scene with the sub was interesting to me. Germany wasn't at war at the time of the story, and yet they "show" that the sub submerged to get to the island with the ark. Why? No one was looking for them, and submarines make better time on the top of the water than underneath. No one would have been watching for them anyhow, and if so, with what? It was a hit and miss proposition to find a sub at sea anyway, and what nationality would have had the equipment unfriendly to the nazi's would have been based anywhere near a location of such importance as the sub pen? You were also lead to believe the island was somewhere near Italy (the map), which wasa future ally to Germany, and wouldn't have been monitoring that area either. Oh well, other unponderable items. As we're reminded now and again, it's only a story. Hard to let go though, isn't it? Regards. Michaelson

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: : : : Hey all, 
: : : :   I was just wondering what are these things called? It's been bugging me for quite some time. Thanks in advance!!

: : : : Meg

: : : Are you referring to the type airship? If so, it's a zepplein, or ridge framed airship, named after the inventor. There were several built, including the Graf Zepplein as well as the Hindenberg. As to the bi-plane trainer on the trapeze hanger, that I'd have to do some more digging. It was a real item used by not only the Germans, but the U.S. Navy in the 1930's, and the rig was also used to capture planes in flight, though not exactly the safest procedure to practice. The Navy used it as a recon plane for use with an airship when doing official exploration work. The theory was to use the airship as a movable platform, and the planes could then fly to and from the airship without landing. The plan was to use this idea on South Pole explorations, and a movie was made back in 1930 showing this usage. Personally I'm not sure whether it was actually used or not, as Adm. Byrd was a big believer in ridge wing aircraft and wasn't THAT fond of all that hydrogen hanging over his head. Hope this helps you some. Regards. Michaelson

: : Did you ever wonder why the zepplein, a commercial aircraft, would be carrying an armed biplane on an international flight?  Where were they going? To Istanbul?  When they crashed, the old man with the car seemed to be Turkish, or at least from that general area.  And Indy and his father were by a body of water, probably the Aegean, or the Black Sea, but maybe the Adriatic.  And they were attached by Bf 109's over non-German airspace.  The Bf 109 had a very limited range of between 286 and 413 miles.  Where were they based?  I always wondered.

: I kind of gave up that sor of wondering way back when I saw Raiders, because the scene with the sub was interesting to me. Germany wasn't at war at the time of the story, and yet they "show" that the sub submerged to get to the island with the ark. Why? No one was looking for them, and submarines make better time on the top of the water than underneath. No one would have been watching for them anyhow, and if so, with what? It was a hit and miss proposition to find a sub at sea anyway, and what nationality would have had the equipment unfriendly to the nazi's would have been based anywhere near a location of such importance as the sub pen? You were also lead to believe the island was somewhere near Italy (the map), which wasa  future ally to Germany, and wouldn't have been monitoring that area either. Oh well, other unponderable items. As we're reminded now and again, it's only a story. Hard to let go though, isn't it? Regards. Michaelson

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