Re: Movie influences on SS & GL - a darker Indy?

Posted by Krede from vlb-209-46.ppp.uni2.dk on March 24, 1999 at 12:27:13:

In Reply to: Movie influences on SS & GL - a darker Indy? posted by Brian on March 24, 1999 at 05:20:43:

: Just recently purchased Treasure of the Sierra Madre (which I have also seen about 6 times - great film).

: This, as most of you will know, was one of the many films that inspired SS & GL to make Raiders. In particular the protagonist Fred C. Dobbs was to be reflected in Indy's character, although very little actually rubbed off on Harrison Ford.

: For anyone who hasn't seen it, it's not a Raiders type adventure. It's about gold diggers in Mexico during the "Rush".

: I was wondering what anyone thought, how it would've been if Raiders and in particular, Indiana Jones were more serious and darker (but not like TOD). Treasure of Sierra Madre has a dark side to it and the characters and yet has it's lighter moments.

: Also, I feel that Indy can be a bit soft at times. Of course, as Spielberg (or was it Lucas?) said: "..he's vulnerable like the rest of us. He has problems like money, etc..".

: If anyone has the Raiders Collector's Edition, or perhaps seen the pre-production paintings of Raiders & Indy, then you might notice that they had a darker image. One which I would love to have seen.

: Indy as a smoking, drinking bum that was out for himself and money? That would've worked pretty well too....

: Any thoughts?

: Regards,

: Brian

I don´t know, I think I like Indy the way he is, but he does have dark side. Remember in Raiders
when they first see the stonecase with the ark in it? how Indy´s eyes opens wide as he caresses
the lid until Sallah´s staring make him pull himself together? That, I think, is a portrayal of Indy´s
dark side. But I can´t imagine him as a alcoholic playboy as he was originally envisioned.

regards
Krede

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: : Just recently purchased Treasure of the Sierra Madre (which I have also seen about 6 times - great film).

: : This, as most of you will know, was one of the many films that inspired SS & GL to make Raiders.  In particular the protagonist Fred C. Dobbs was to be reflected in Indy's character, although very little actually rubbed off on Harrison Ford.

: : For anyone who hasn't seen it, it's not a Raiders type adventure.  It's about gold diggers in Mexico during the "Rush".

: : I was wondering what anyone thought, how it would've been if Raiders and in particular, Indiana Jones were more serious and darker (but not like TOD).  Treasure of Sierra Madre has a dark side to it and the characters and yet has it's lighter moments.

: : Also, I feel that Indy can be a bit soft at times.  Of course, as Spielberg (or was it Lucas?) said: "..he's vulnerable like the rest of us.  He has problems like money, etc..".

: : If anyone has the Raiders Collector's Edition, or perhaps seen the pre-production paintings of Raiders & Indy, then you might notice that they had a darker image.  One which I would love to have seen.

: : Indy as a smoking, drinking bum that was out for himself and money?  That would've worked pretty well too....

: : Any thoughts?

: : Regards,

: : Brian

: 
: I don´t know, I think I like Indy the way he is, but he does have dark side. Remember in Raiders
: when they first see the stonecase with the ark in it? how Indy´s eyes opens wide as he caresses 
: the lid until Sallah´s staring make him pull himself together? That, I think, is a portrayal of Indy´s
: dark side. But I can´t imagine him as a alcoholic playboy as he was originally envisioned.

: regards 
: Krede

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