Measured from seam (inside) to edge (outside). I'm not including the facing on the inside of the collar. I measured at a 90 degree angle, i.e. straight across. Sounds like you do have a Raiders. (nm)

Posted by Patterson from gw.wizards.com on January 17, 2000 at 15:52:16:

In Reply to: wested... patterson measurements posted by anthony on January 17, 2000 at 15:38:49:

: i really appreciate the fast response but the measurement is it from the seam to the back of the collar which on mine measures3.0" or is it from the seam to the wing or longest part...please reply

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