Re: Color, Movies, and Hats

Posted by Fedora from ppp-136.col.cableone.net on November 19, 2000 at 16:01:13:

In Reply to: Color, Movies, and Hats posted by MK on November 19, 2000 at 12:55:31:

: Black is a color that is sometimes avoided in movies because it is difficult to photograph. It takes a pro to keep it from looking like a black hole in the film. I have the same problem when we shoot product shots for my magazine. Having said that, I should tell you that the comparision pic is not a raw scan. It is rare when a pic does not need color correcting. I had to tweak the color and contrast to make it match what you see with the naked eye. In regards to the pic of my fedora, when I corrected to match the color of the felt, the new black ribbon looked dark brown! I really had to work it to make it look black. This little exercise has been educational for me. I have experience in motion pictures, printing, and computers in regards to color. But even with a trained eye I can't say with certainty what color the ribbon was in Raiders. At least with the evidence we have.

: The important thing is contrast. That Petersham could not provide the contrast needed. The ribbon on the Peter Bros looks great. What is it?

Perhaps you are correct on all of this. You are referring to the Raiders fedora, but what about the other 2 film hats? Were they also closer to black than brown? Guess this is an excuse to pull out the videos once again and do some more observing. Wonder if the Raiders fedora is on display anywhere? If it is, we could put this subject to rest. Regards, Fedora

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: : Black is a color that is sometimes avoided in movies because it is difficult to photograph. It takes a pro to keep it from looking like a black hole in the film. I have the same problem when we shoot product shots for my magazine. Having said that, I should tell you that the comparision pic is not a raw scan. It is rare when a pic does not need color correcting. I had to tweak the color and contrast to make it match what you see with the naked eye. In regards to the pic of my fedora, when I corrected to match the color of the felt, the new black ribbon looked dark brown! I really had to work it to make it look black. This little exercise has been educational for me. I have experience in motion pictures, printing, and computers in regards to color. But even with a trained eye I can't say with certainty what color the ribbon was in Raiders. At least with the evidence we have.

: : The important thing is contrast. That Petersham could not provide the contrast needed. The ribbon on the Peter Bros looks great. What is it?

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:    Perhaps you are correct on all of this. You are referring to the Raiders fedora, but what about the other 2 film hats? Were they also closer to black than brown? Guess this is an excuse to pull out the videos once again and do some more observing. Wonder if the Raiders fedora is on display anywhere? If it is, we could put this subject to rest.    Regards, Fedora

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