Or better yey, are there any folks out there that have been given different specs by the HJ folks concerning this hat? Speak up or forever hold your peace(nm)

Posted by Fedora from 24.116.26.232 on December 10, 2000 at 23:36:58:

In Reply to: Well, thanks Greg. Any other HJ owners out there? posted by Dakota Ellison on December 10, 2000 at 20:43:26:

: : : Just read Patterson's post concerning the letter from HJ dated in 96. I have one question for you HJ ownners. Does anyone out there have an HJ with a 6 1/4 inch crown height? I have had several people in the past measure their Hj for me, and no one has ever reported a crown height this tall. In fact, no one has ever reported a crown height over 5 1/2 inches, with many coming in shorter than this. And this is the first time I have ever heard that the brim was 2 7/8 x 2 3/4. Once and for all, I want the correct specs nailed down, so we can set this in concrete, and move on. I am beginning to suspect that even HJ doesn't know the correct specs. It is hard for me to believe, that the tallest hat(Raiders) of the 3 was 6 1/4 before bashing. We would be approaching the ten gallon hat style for a guy who reportedly wears a 7 1/4, or is it 7 3/8. No one apparently knows for sure. And something else that bugs me is the reporting of this ET installment. Is there anyone who can report what was said without drifting off into the twightlight zone. I mean, some guy reported on the next film being shot in July of 2001 or 2002. I am so tired of the misinformation that is out there. If you don't have verifiable info, please don't waste our time here. Regards, Fedora

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: : My second HJ, when the crown is open, measures near to 6 inches (and that is after a little crown shrinkage over 2 years. The brim is actually 2 7/8 inch at the front and back and a little over 2 1/2 inches at the sides. Remember that while you can speak directly to Mr. Swales at the shop, he may not be the one filling your order, and so the more people making a particular style of hat, the more variations in the cuts and dimensions you will have. The same was true for the film hats. You can be certain that to make that many hats, you would need more than one person churning them out! Joe Jr. can control the specs on his hats more consistently since he appears to be the only one making them. You can request anything you want from HJ. You can have the brim cut to any dimensions you want. If you specify just "The Indy hat," the only difference they will ask you about is the front pinch unless you specifically ask for something more detailed. I have never worried too much about the Raider's look and whether or not the HJ hat looks like it or not, simply because I prefer the LC look, so I think the HJ hats look EXACT-as exact as a replica can get! You just need to know what you want and be specific. Mr. Swales and the staff there will work with you as long as you aren't a pain. Remember that they sell other hats as well and they must get a little tired of folks questioning them on their hat authenticity and I am certain that after as many years of being in business as they've been (and selling to actors, royalty, film, etc.), they must not appreciate an Indyfan getting too uppity with them. Be kind and respectful, give Mr. Swales the same details that you would Joe Jr. and then just wait for it to arrive. You won't be disappointed by the hat or the service if you follow this advice. Even try asking them about their other chapeaus since they take pride in all of their hats!

: : Greg

: So far, the measurements seem to close to Mr. Swales letter.
: Cheers,
: Ellison

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: : : :    Just read Patterson's post concerning the letter from HJ dated in 96. I have one question for you HJ ownners. Does anyone out there have an HJ with a 6 1/4 inch crown height? I have had several people in the past measure their Hj for me, and no one has ever reported a crown height this tall. In fact, no one has ever reported a crown height over 5 1/2 inches, with many coming in shorter than this. And this is the first time I have ever heard that the brim was 2 7/8 x 2 3/4. Once and for all, I want the correct specs nailed down, so we can set this in concrete, and move on. I am beginning to suspect that even HJ doesn't know the correct specs. It is hard for me to believe, that the tallest hat(Raiders) of the 3 was 6 1/4 before bashing. We would be approaching the ten gallon hat style for a guy who reportedly wears a 7 1/4, or is it 7 3/8. No one apparently knows for  sure. And something else that bugs me is the reporting of this ET installment. Is there anyone who can report what was said without drifting off into the twightlight zone. I mean, some guy reported on the next film being shot in July of 2001 or 2002. I am so tired of the misinformation that is out there. If you don't have verifiable info, please don't waste our time here.    Regards, Fedora

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: : : My second HJ, when the crown is open, measures near to 6 inches (and that is after a little crown shrinkage over 2 years.  The brim is actually 2 7/8 inch at the front and back and a little over 2 1/2 inches at the sides.  Remember that while you can speak directly to Mr. Swales at the shop, he may not be the one filling your order, and so the more people making a particular style of hat, the more variations in the cuts and dimensions you will have.  The same was true for the film hats.  You can be certain that to make that many hats, you would need more than one person churning them out!  Joe Jr. can control the specs on his hats more consistently since he appears to be the only one making them.  You can request anything you want from HJ.  You can have the brim cut to any dimensions you want.  If you specify just "The Indy hat," the only difference they will ask you about is the front pinch unless you specifically ask for something more detailed.  I have never worried too much about the Raider's look and whether or not the HJ hat looks like it or not, simply because I prefer the LC look, so I think the HJ hats look EXACT-as exact as a replica can get!  You just need to know what you want and be specific.  Mr. Swales and the staff there will work with you as long as you aren't a pain.  Remember that they sell other hats as well and they must get a little tired of folks questioning them on their hat authenticity and I am certain that after as many years of being in business as they've been (and selling to actors, royalty, film, etc.), they must not appreciate an Indyfan getting too uppity with them.  Be kind and respectful, give Mr. Swales the same details that you would Joe Jr. and then just wait for it to arrive.  You won't be disappointed by the hat or the service if you follow this advice.  Even try asking them about their other chapeaus since they take pride in all of their hats!

: : : Greg

: : So far, the measurements seem to close to Mr. Swales letter.
: : Cheers,
: : Ellison

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